Shareconomy, Cabinets that are Dishwashers, Weed Koi Fish, and Movie Buddy

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- I'm Scott.

- I'm Russell.

- And I'm Leo.

This is Spitball.

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Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen,

where three digital dreamers empty their heads

of startup and tech product ideas

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Anything that we say is yours to keep.

Scott, who'd you bring with us this week?

- I have one of my oldest friends

coming to you live from Hawaii.

This is my friend, Jake.

He has been a persistent thorn in my side growing up.

I was always the good kid growing up

and Jake was always the constant bad influence on me

in my life.

Truly one of my oldest and best friends.

Welcome, Jake.

- Ah, thank you for that lovely introduction.

- Welcome, we're so glad you're here.

I didn't know you were in Hawaii, that's sick.

- I am.

My wife accepted a job at Queens Medical Center

as one of the managers in the OR.

- Wow.

- So yeah, we just kind of picked up our life

and moved out here.

- So are you like a trophy husband then?

Is that mean you stay at home and like--

(laughing)

- Oh, God, I would.

- Today I went to the market and got some fresh fruit.

- I wish I were a trophy husband,

but no, I work remotely.

- What does working remotely even mean?

- Yeah.

- I talked to my mom today and she's like,

"Oh, you're working from home.

"That's right, you don't work."

(laughing)

Thanks, Mom.

- Boomers, they don't understand us.

- Pretty much.

- As you all know, CPUs, processors,

have code names when they're in development,

such as, I don't know, Meteor Lake

and Xen for AMD and Intel processors, right?

So today we're gonna be playing a game called Core Clash

or Micro versus Macro.

I haven't decided.

We had a good debate over what the best name was today

and when I was at work.

Today we're gonna be talking about a name

and I need you guys to tell me

if this was a code name for a processor

from Intel, AMD, Arm,

or if it was a planet in a sci-fi series.

So as always, we start with our guest, Jake.

If you could tell me, for example, if I said Arrakis,

that would be the planet from Dune or Celeron.

That's an Intel processor.

Jake, Skylake, S-K-Y-L-A-K-E, one word.

- Oh, Skylake.

Okay, I'm gonna say it's a processor.

- It indeed is.

It was the Intel sixth generation.

Scott, Trantor, T-R-A-N-T-O-R.

- I really want that to be a planet,

but I think it's gotta be a processor.

- That's a planet from Foundation,

the series by Isaac Anselmoff, so unfortunately no.

Russell, Conroe, or Conroe, C-O-N-R-O-E.

- It's a planet?

- It's an Intel processor.

- No way.

- Could be like a Nick Cage Con Air planet.

- Jake, off to a roaring start.

That's of course the Core 2 Duo, the code name.

Jake, Haswell, H-A-S-W-E-L-L.

- I'm gonna go with processor, Leo.

- They were indeed very good.

- Jake is killing it.

- That was an Intel line for fourth generation, I7, I5.

Scotty, Gallifrey, G-A-L-L-I-F-R-E-Y.

Gallifrey, Gallifrey.

- You're just making me proud.

I have no idea, I'm gonna say processor.

- That of course is the home of the Time Lords

and Doctor Who, you should have known that.

- Sorry.

- Russell, Cortex, C-O-R-T-E-X.

- That's a processor.

- That's the ARM processor chips, yeah, exactly.

- That would have been mad if that one was a player.

- If I'm keeping track, Jake 2, Russell 1, Scott Zich.

Jake, Ryloth, R-Y-L-O-T-H.

- Okay, I was wondering when this was gonna

get more difficult.

I'm gonna say this is a planet for science fiction.

- That indeed was the home planet of the Twiliacs

in Star Wars, the dudes with the colored skin

and the long things on their head.

I don't know, I've just offended half of our audience.

I don't know, the tentacle things that come off their head.

I don't know what to call them.

- We've lost one half and offended the other.

- Someone on the Wookiepedia is like,

I can't believe this fricking podcaster just didn't,

how offensive.

Scott, N-H-A-L-E-M.

- I'm just gonna say processor every time,

I'm just gonna say planet.

- There was a processor from Intel, of course,

the 45 nanometer 2008 first generation core i5, yeah.

- No one can even say that.

- Russell, Miranda, spelled like the girl's name, M-I-R-A-N-D-A

- That's a planet.

- It is, of course, that's where the Reavers are from

in Firefly, a remotely terraformed planet.

Last time through, Jake, you got a perfect score.

What's your last one here?

Harvest, spelled as it sounds, H-A-R-V-E-S-T.

- Oh man, well, I could be either.

- I know this one.

- Let's go with processor.

- What is it, Scott?

- It's a planet.

- From?

- I don't remember.

- It's from, it was the first planet

that the Covenant attacked in Halo, of course.

- Oh, that's right.

No, that's Reach, thank you.

Oh no, you're right, it is Harvest.

- I thought it was New Horizon.

- Maybe you don't know the whole lore 'cause.

- Yeah.

- I don't either.

Last one, Scott, M-E-R-O-M.

- Planet, I'm gonna say confidently, but I have no idea.

- Definitely a processor, the Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Solo.

That's a rough score for you, sorry to hear.

All right, and Russell, last but not least, Corriban.

K-O-R-R-I-B-A-N.

- It's got the word core, it must be a processor, right?

- It's the ancient Sith homeworld, of course.

(laughing)

Jake, I think that leaves you with three points.

You are our winner this week, well done.

- Thank you, thank you.

- Scott got the hard ones.

- I don't know, I'm just not good at this.

The company I'm at right now uses code names all the time

for their projects and they're using Star Wars ones

right now and one of them is Kashyyyk,

like the Wookiee homeworld in Star Wars,

except all the engineers who don't know Star Wars

are like, it's Kashyyyk, Kashyyyk,

and it just kills me inside every time they say it.

- It's kind of a tough one to spell,

I don't know if I could,

there's like two Ys in there somewhere, right?

All right, with that, I think Russell,

you are first this week, what you got for us?

- All right, all right, so recently I bought,

I had to buy a lawnmower.

By recently, I used to have this Sun Joe lawnmower

I bought on Amazon.

It was an electric one and it sucked.

It like was so bad, but I used it for about,

you know, two or three years.

It's literally a box fan on the bottom of a lawnmower

with blades.

(laughing)

- I have one of those.

I congratulate you for using it for as long as you did

because it was so awful.

- You know what I'm talking about, it was so bad.

- The green thing?

- Yes, the green one and it's like the smallest,

most narrow, I had to go over like 400 times on my lawn

and it was so bad.

- Oh, that's rough.

- I have a Sun Joe power washer, it's pretty mid.

- See, they trick us, right?

They trick us with that electric

and they're tapping into our millennial like,

millennial desire to save the world.

Saving the world.

I'd rather burn coal when I mow my lawn than gasoline.

But anyway, so I bought a lawnmower

and I realized I only use it probably once a month

because every other time I mow the lawn,

I hire like the neighborhood kids to mow it

because I'm gone all the time.

So then I ended up spending $300 on a lawnmower

that I never use.

My neighbor, their college,

kind of fresh out of college kids,

they borrow my lawnmower all the time for free

because I don't know,

I just feel like a good person sometimes,

despite me trying to avoid taxes in my last episode.

That is why I came up with this idea.

It's called Shareconomy.

I don't know, we needed a better name for it.

Let's say communism.

- Share communism.

- Share with friends, all right?

We'll call it that.

- You can call it cheer with friends.

Cheer like, you know, you're cheering.

- Share your cheers.

All right, how's it work?

So the idea concept is you buy a lawnmower, all right?

And you never, maybe you use it once a week, once a month.

Your neighbor needs a lawnmower.

You have 10, 15 people that all buy lawnmowers

to mow their lawn and then store it in their garage, right?

You only use it for an hour every other week, every week.

Why not just borrow your neighbors

and throw them some bucks, throw them some cash, right?

And now it's kind of like the Toro, the--

- Turo. - Yeah, Turo.

It's like where you borrow people's cars or--

- Not Toro, the lawnmower company.

- Oh, that's probably what got me confused.

- Which is what I thought you meant.

- Turo, right?

So it's like you have all this stuff in your house.

Why not just like look at your neighbors

or let's say you have a group of friends that are nearby

that you all sign up on the app,

you list your stuff that you're willing to share

and then you just create this whole ecosystem

of sharing, borrowing, make it free for friends

and then, hey, for 10 or 20 bucks,

your neighbor could borrow it.

You know, you could open it up.

So it's not just like localize your friends

but you could actually open it up to the market

and say, let me borrow your saw.

I only need it for a week, right?

You know, it can go and expand to house rental,

Airbnb, like car rental.

Like why not just go through the roof with it, right?

But really the concept is like,

I wanna borrow a 50 inch TV, let's say for one day.

I would pay, and then it kind of works both ways.

I wanna buy a projector

but I don't wanna pull,

I wanna like throw it on the marketplace

to like compensate for the, you know, the cost of it.

So that's kind of it.

It's just group, local group sharing, renting.

- Okay, very first thought is in our neighborhoods,

you'll sometimes see like those boxes

that people put up in the front yard,

like the little birdhouse looking things

that have library books in them.

They're just like, you can take a book

and leave a book sort of thing.

Put what shed or something on your property

where it's part of the same communist system.

I don't, what did you call it?

- Shareconomy?

- Shareconomy system.

- TM, TM.

- You know, my shed set up

and there's a combo or something on the front.

And if you're part of the shareconomy,

you can access the tools that I have in this shed

specifically for the shareconomy.

- So I came up with the name

because I saw some article about boomers.

Sorry, I'm like trashing every generation right now.

- Please.

- Millennials are sharing their stuff.

And they called it the shareconomy.

And it was like the doomsday for our economy

and people were sharing their stuff.

So that's why I named it that.

- So this is like a middle finger to that.

I love it.

- A shed is a really cool idea though, Scott.

Then you can, or like some sort of lockbox thing, right?

So the app kind of has a locking feature or code.

- I can grab the weed whacker from the shed.

- Yeah, I mean, Airbnb has those locks, right?

That would be just like it.

- So I don't know if you know this, Russell,

we live, I don't know, the listeners might not know this,

but Russell and I live right next to each other.

We live in a neighborhood that has like a co-op for tools.

You can pay, I think it's like 25 bucks a year

or something cheap.

And some guy in his garage

maintains the neighborhood tool library

where there's like a socket set and a jack and a drill.

And I don't know what else,

some shears and a chainsaw and stuff.

And you can just borrow it a bit at a time

from the tool library.

This is like decentralizing that idea

where everybody has a little bit of it.

I really like that.

This seems way more sustainable than like,

what if the tool library owns one of them

and then it's checked out and gone.

- Yeah, that's the thing, right?

Like, and if you throw a little bit of that insurance,

five bucks for insurance, right?

If it breaks or whatever, you know?

But the tool library, I know that you're talking about,

but it's maintained by one dude.

I don't know this person.

I feel kind of weird for some reason.

I don't, maybe that's my fault, right?

But it's like kind of this distant,

I see it and I'm like,

oh, I don't want to walk into this guy's house

and have like a 30 minute conversation

with somebody I don't know to borrow a tool.

- You want it to be like an Airbnb

where you have no interaction with the host.

- Right, or Chrysalis where it's very transactional.

You're like, hey, you got the iPhone?

Yeah, you got your 60 bucks?

Let me turn it on and then we're on our way, right?

Never see you again.

- This might just be a Midwest thing.

I don't know.

We'll have to ask Jake on that one.

Willing to share tools.

- You know, I currently live

on the 22nd floor of a high rise.

So I don't really have tools anymore,

which is just lovely.

- You have a handyman.

- But what I do notice a lot

because I am from the Midwest is that yes,

Midwest culture, people are a lot friendlier

in the Midwest than they are in the rest of the world.

And I'm not like tooting the horn of the Midwest.

- It's true.

- I have moved around a lot

and I've known a lot of people

and Midwest culture is just a lot more accepting

of helping your neighbor.

And I think it would be an excellent idea

to have something like a little library

or a little tool shed outside.

My main concern with it is, okay,

how do you upkeep the tools?

Lawnmower, you need to put oil in it.

You need to put gasoline in it.

If it's electric, which you do not want an electric one,

you need to plug it in somewhere.

Maybe there's like an extension cord that you need.

So there are a lot of variables in my head that say,

eh, you know, that would be a bit cumbersome,

but it would also add on to the experience of,

hey, I even have the extension cord

that goes to the electric lawnmower for you.

Hey, are you going up on the roof

to drill in your little Christmas lights?

I have an extension cord for you.

It's 60 feet long.

I have a ladder for you, take it.

- I love the idea of maintaining your,

like people could donate tools to this

instead of buying brand new or something.

I have an old lawnmower.

I was just gonna donate that on there,

not an electric, but an actual gas one.

And then maybe I'm responsible for the upkeep

or maybe I get free service

because I donated this thing of this value to it.

So I get free membership of all the other tools on here.

- You know, yeah.

Or like in this, in a way,

because it's still like your lawnmower, right?

You're still kind of responsible for that upkeep and stuff.

And hopefully you're making enough bucks, right?

Or your friends are giving,

Venmoing you enough money to keep that maintenance up.

- You give it like a digital currency,

your share economy bucks.

You put five bucks in

and that lets you borrow from your neighbors,

or you can get some share economy bucks

from your neighbors borrowing your lawnmower.

So then you have the library,

the wallet now in your virtual thing

to then buy someone else's garden shears

for an afternoon or something.

- Yeah, commie bucks, we'll call it.

- Commie bucks.

- You can even put it like a subscription system

where there are certain tiers of shears.

Shear one is-

- Your shears tiers, yeah, totally.

- Shear one is like the small hand tools

that nobody really wants.

Shear tier two is like the lawnmowers

and maybe like tier five is like a right on mower

where you have a cup holder.

I had one, it was amazing.

- That's how our neighborhood tool library works.

There's like the 25 bucks a year for non power tools.

And then it's 50 or something for,

you can have a couple of power tools also at a time.

Yeah.

- God bless America.

(laughing)

- I guess Jake, you got me thinking,

what would city people wanna borrow?

Like do people, like, do they wanna borrow like

DJ equipment or like, what do you guys in the city do?

Light show equipment, lasers.

What do you think people in cities do?

Do drugs and-

- In my apartment.

- I live in Honolulu, which is like very college centric

and these college kids do a lot less now

than what we were doing back in college.

I never went to college, but I partied with Scott a lot

during his college days.

So I know, but yeah, these college kids these days,

they don't really go out much.

Like Russell was saying, if there's a television

that I want to rent out or a projector

and I can have like friends over and we can play,

Mario Kart on the projector or-

- Yeah, put a GameCube or something in there.

- Yeah, it would have to be something that would be indoors

because city life, you don't really do anything outdoors,

especially when you're living in an apartment.

- Dollies, you need dollies, right?

- Dollies.

- Yeah.

- That's an all.

- Oh yeah, a dolly would be fantastic.

If you want to expand into the car rental,

you can say, hey, I need a truck with a flatbed

to help me move out of this place.

- Gosh, that's like my dream to like be able to borrow

somebody's truck for free, one time a year you need it.

- Never tell anyone you own a pickup.

- That's right, always have a friend with a pool,

a boat, a pickup.

- I lost my friend with the pool.

- Yeah, I know, Leo.

- Yeah, moved away, not looking back.

Our local hardware store has like $20 an hour

pickup truck rental beaters that you can do.

- You know what's weird?

I just don't want to rent from like Home Depot though.

Is that weird?

It just feels, there's something novel,

I think about like borrowing from your neighbors,

but it's hard to do it.

- It's the trust, right?

Like you could have your app have the Uber style ratings

and you get to know like I've only whitelisted

these 12 people can borrow from me

because I live within X miles of them

and I know them kind of thing.

- Man, wow, this reminded me there's this guy,

I don't know how this came up.

This, sorry guys, this is gonna go way off topic.

But my friend was like, yeah, so I hate bumming cigarettes.

No, and it was because every time he'd bum,

he would never be a bum, right?

He'd always be giving them away.

And so he wanted to create an app.

- You keep track of it?

- Or you keep track and it's like, yeah,

just bum me one, right?

So you literally buy a digital pack on your phone

and you would give away, like, oh yeah,

just I'll give you a digital cigarette.

You get a cig in real life.

And now like, Marlboro is, you know,

selling digital packs online

and everybody's got this like digital cigarette economy.

- Is it on the blockchain?

- That would have been so great to have when I was a smoker.

You have no idea how hard it was when you were jonesing

and you were completely broke and out of cigarettes.

You had to go like find someone on the street

and be like, you're smoking, can I have a cigarette please?

Like it was the most awkward exchange ever.

Like also I forgot my lighter at home.

Can I have your lighter?

Also please, sir, can I have your lung?

Yeah, right.

Can you smoke it for me please?

- That's amazing. - Dude, city life.

There you go.

That's for the city people, all right?

- There you go.

- But I think there's an element like,

take the, replace cigarettes with like,

I don't know, baking.

I think of everybody's borrowing cups of sugar

for some reason, but that's not true.

Like there's probably somebody out there that's like--

- I feel like that's a very 50s thing to do.

- It is.

You'd get shot if you tried that nowadays.

- I have a neighbor down the street

who just a couple of days ago asked me for like,

do you have a can of black beans or something like that?

And like, I don't want to run to the store.

Do you have anything?

Yeah, it does still happen.

- And they have the courage to knock on your door

and ask for that.

- It was a text.

- Oh, okay.

- Oh, see?

That's why you need the app, you know?

See, and now she gives,

or he gives you a digital can of black beans.

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- Cleo, what do you got for us today?

- Today's pitch is something we're gonna build together.

- Oh boy.

- It is four words.

Are you ready?

Cabinets that are dishwashers.

So, you may or may not realize because of the trend.

The trend in this show has been,

I have different variations of the word dishwasher.

You may be able to tell I do the dishes

in my house every freaking day.

It's nightmare inducing.

So, I have seen in Norway, somewhere in Scandinavia,

they have a drying rack that is the cabinet

and it's over the sink.

So the whole bottom of the cabinet is like slotted

and you put your wet dishes up there

and it drips down into the sink.

What is stopping the world from putting away their dishes

into a cabinet that is sealed, that does the dishwashing?

Every single dish that you put in the cabinet

doesn't have to be dirty, right?

Just wash the clean ones too.

I don't know why we can't make this all be one thing.

You put your dishes with your spaghetti sauce

right back into the little vertical rack

that they go in in your cabinet.

And then at midnight every night,

it just washes every one that you mark

as this one has been opened at least once today.

Why wouldn't this work?

Please tell me.

- I'm picturing all my cabinets are now replaced

with dishwashers, that's it.

Like there's dishwashers above, there's dishwashers below.

- Obviously, they would be a different design

than just like a regular dishwasher

that opens like a tray.

- Dishwasher works, just put them everywhere.

(laughing)

- I guess.

- I just have some kind of self-dispensing soap system

that feeds into all of them and you're golden.

- Right, centralized Tide Pod distribution system

for Cascade or whatever.

- So would the dishwashers still look like cabinets

or would they look like miniature dishwashers?

- I think you could make them be cabinets, right?

They just have the seal around the door

and you've got like a rack system

in each one of your cabinets.

You're not stacking the plates like you would normally,

but you put them on a little rack

and you press go, right?

- I love this.

- I would actually really like this as well.

(laughing)

Why not have 10 of them, 12?

And then, like I said, you can have a sensor

where when you open the door at least once,

that changes a light somewhere in the corner

from green to red.

And even if you only use one dish in there,

just wash them all again.

There's some problems with like,

it'd probably eat away the enamel every day

washing for years maybe, not super great for dishes.

- Then you sell your own plates on the website too.

- There we go, I was about to say,

it starts with the plates, you know?

- That's where the real money is.

- You might have some problems with rust or something,

I don't know, but.

- I love this.

Just picturing being able to put my dirty plate back

and just not think.

- Sure.

- What if you like, so like what,

I think water is the problem.

What if you used heat?

Can you use heat to clean?

Like dehydrate?

- Just cook the crap out of it.

- Yeah, just go.

- Bake?

- Dude, oven cleaning mode.

- You don't need dishwashers, it's just ovens.

The entire thing is ovens in the kitchen.

- You already have an oven.

- So you're worried about the water usage,

so you want to heat several things to 350 or more every day?

I'm just worried about the environment,

so I want to have 12 ovens on at all times.

- No, think of it as an air fryer, all right?

You got a fan, convection oven,

it dehydrates and heats, boom, instant clean.

- All inclusive cabinets, any cabinet can do anything.

It doesn't matter.

It can wash your dishes, it can cook your turkey.

- You just put your turkey right in the cabinet.

- You can store your spices in it, it doesn't matter.

- This is my cabinet turkey.

- Also refrigerates, I forgot about that.

- It fridges too, exactly, right.

- Put a beer can in there, boom, beer can turkey.

- Don't mix up the settings, bad stuff can happen.

When you put all your forks in the microwave cabinet.

- I feel like we've lost the plot here a little bit.

- Okay, okay, you're onto something, Leo,

because what if you just had one giant,

just like three dishwashers?

Like you can solve this problem by three dishwashers.

- And that's just where they live?

- And that's just where they live.

- That's what I want,

then put them up where the cabinets go.

- I love that actually, it's just one massive open area,

but it can look like it's different cabinet doors opening,

but really just one whole giant dishwasher.

- Sure.

- And you could, yeah, sure, if height's an issue, right?

If you don't wanna bend down to get your dishes, Leo,

I guess.

- Yeah, I'm thinking about like,

you got a lot of pots and pans and stuff too,

that you'd have to make room for,

but I feel like with the rolling racks

that most dishwashers have, this could be doable.

- Yeah, you could probably even make bigger cabinets

for those bigger items with the pots and pans and whatnot.

- I'm saying this as I'm sitting in my kitchen

looking at my cabinets being like, how would this work?

- Sure.

- It'd be really cool.

- You waterproof it, you get some sprayers,

you get some hoses, you mark which ones you wanna run,

you say go.

- So how would you run the water to the cabinets?

- Plumbing.

- Same way the water runs to the rest of the house, right?

- Just wifi it.

- Okay.

(laughing)

- Wifi it.

- You guys remember ThinkGeek?

ThinkGeek always had yearly April Fool's sales

and one of their products was a cordless extension cord,

a wireless extension cord,

but they also had a wireless hose sprayers too.

So good.

- Bluetooth hoses.

- Yeah, exactly it.

- If you get hoses to each one,

just like your dishwasher has routing around it

to get to the various sprayers,

I don't know, you can hook up to your house's plumbing.

- So, all right, I gotta throw this in here, Leo,

and I forgot about this idea.

Why not, the dishwashing is the problem, right?

- Sure, yeah.

- So what if instead of on your way

to put your dish in the cabinet, okay,

take the Dyson hand dryer and a pressure washer, okay?

So instead of having to clean your plate,

you just go, oh, just dip your plate into the super cleaner.

(imitates vacuum)

And then it goes right in.

Always.

- You put it away instantly, it's dried, ready to go.

- Yeah, you just dip it in and out

and then you put it back away.

- Why not that?

- You're just feeding them in

to a paper shredder or something

and they're coming out perfectly clean on the other side.

I love that.

- Yeah, that's your dishwasher.

Just rip out the dishwasher

and now you have the power washer, Dyson air fan,

like you just put it, you stack it in a way

and now you're just like, what is it, like a DVD?

You remember the old DVDs, you put it in,

it cleans it and it comes right back out.

- Like those DVD cleaners, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Just make it so it can take any shaped object

and throw it in there.

- Yeah, how about you talk in here?

What about when I wanna clean my Crock-Pot?

- Also throw it out.

(laughing)

- Disposable.

So rust I think is gonna be an issue.

Wearing it on your enamels, on your plates

might be an issue, but I can't think of too many

other reasons why this might be a problem.

- The weight of a dishwasher hanging off your studs.

- Nah, it's all plastic, it's fine.

- Yeah, water's pretty heavy,

but they don't use a ton of water.

They kind of recirculate the same.

- That's true.

- A little bit.

- You use light water, the lighter water.

(laughing)

- H1O, huh?

(laughing)

- It's half the weight.

- Pure gallium.

- Could you use a chemical?

(laughing)

- I did great in chemistry in high school.

- What about, why don't we throw chemicals on it?

Like alcohol, right?

Dries easier.

- Like dry cleaning.

- Yeah, like dry cleaning, but instead of using water,

it's like you use alcohol to clean it

and then it dries the plates faster.

You create a filter system,

so that way it's not using water.

- Dry cleaning doesn't use water,

that's why it's called that, they use chemicals.

There's gotta be some combination

of horribly toxic corrosive chemical

that you just put on and rinse off, right?

- Listerine, all right?

We just use Listerine, all right?

- More sanitary than hand washing.

- Listerine used to be floor wash,

if I remember correctly.

- What?

- So.

- Are you serious?

- Oh yeah, yeah.

- There we go.

- Gingivitis is completely, or halitosis it was.

Halitosis is completely made up.

- Am I supposed to gargle Pine Sol then?

- Instructions unclear, gargled Pine Sol.

(upbeat music)

All right, Scott, you're next, what you got?

- Okay, so I had an idea for this week,

but earlier today I just had a conversation

with an old acquaintance and I can't stop thinking

about what he just told me.

And I think I have to, I guess, pitch this idea today.

It's more of a branding exercise

that might get me in trouble with PETA.

This guy, he's a professional chef

and he's been doing it for the last 30 years.

And he's also a very hardcore entrepreneur.

He's always trying to find the next gig.

Several years ago, he lives in Detroit

and several years ago, Michigan legalized weed.

And he was probably the first person to go out

and get the maximum number of plants that you can get,

growing them in his basement.

He bought a big hydroponic setup.

And ever since he's just been growing

as much weed as possible and selling it on the side

to make an extra buck.

So recently, I was talking to him about this today

'cause Ohio just had an election

and they just legalized weed.

And he's always been complaining,

like prices of weed have been going,

just crashing all around

'cause more and more dispensaries have been opened.

Everyone's trying this.

And all of a sudden, he can't make money anymore.

And so, talking to him, I said,

"Okay, what's your next big adventure gonna be?"

'Cause he always has fun ideas.

And he goes, "Okay, I have this massive hydroponic setup.

"The next thing, goldfish."

I was rather confused by that.

He goes, "No, no, no, like goldfish, like koi fish."

Apparently, millennials and people

just love koi fish right now.

And you can sell them for a pretty penny.

And I have all the setup to grow and raise

large koi fish in my basement.

And he goes, "The problem is,

"is my basement is still full of like 60 pounds of weed

"that I can't sell.

"So I think what I'm gonna do

"is just feed the koi fish all the weed I have

"and grow them as big as possible."

So I had to stop him there like,

"Do koi fish eat weed?"

I go, "Yeah, they'll eat absolutely anything.

(laughing)

"You put in any kind of plant in your tank or whatnot."

He's been doing hydroponics for years.

I guess he knows this.

I have not fact-checked this at all.

But he goes, "Yeah, they'll happily eat

"all the weed that I have down there."

And so it's just a big branding exercise.

I don't remember what he called it,

like koi kush or like toktail or something,

where he's just gonna grow these koi fish

and sell them on the side.

But the whole premise is that

they were raised on whole-grown farm organic weed.

And he's gonna have different websites

where it's just showing a bunch of little squinty-eyed,

very happy koi fish.

(laughing)

I can't stop thinking about this

and I need help digesting this idea.

- So because we do have Google and the internet,

koi fish will eat anything

that they can fit into their mouths.

Anything that they can filter feed, they'll eat it.

- Well, he's got the RO water, he's got the bubblers,

and he's got the food apparently, so.

- Yeah.

- Does cannabis have nutritional value?

- I can Google that too.

I'm a writer, so I'm not worried about the FBI.

They've already been watching me for a while, so.

- Does THC affect the koi fish?

Do fish get high?

- Whoa.

- This is the 18 plus episode.

- Their memory goes from five seconds to three seconds,

I guess, I don't know.

(laughing)

- You need to see the control.

He's gotta grow a control set of koi fish

next to his always baked.

- Baked koi fish.

- Okay, so apparently koi fish have healing properties

on both body and mind if you keep and raise them.

- So is that your MVP then?

Is that what you're selling at that point?

Extra healing koi fish?

- Dude, like every weed dispensary would just buy this up

and just be like, oh, we got some expired weed.

Let's throw it into our koi fish pond.

Our kush fish.

- Kush fish.

- Dang.

I guess I gotta see a high koi fish

in order to know how to sell it.

- I just wanna see two next to each other

and be able to point out, okay,

which one's the one that grew up on organic weed

his whole life?

- So the idea is to sell high koi fish.

- Is there a market for,

would people find that funny or interesting enough

to be like, hell yeah, I want a fish

that only eaten weed its whole life?

- I think it's so niche that it's kind of like a movie

where it's a cult classic.

People are gonna be like, hey,

did you see the extended copy of Blade Runner

with the high koi fish?

Yeah.

- It does feel like it's gotta catch on

and then it's gonna catch on hard and fast.

And then all these, you know, tokers,

I don't know what they call them.

All these people that enjoy the culture of weed

would become deep in the koi fish.

- I need one of these fish.

- Yeah.

- Could you imagine though, if you were able to prove like,

or just show that, wow, this fish is so much healthier

and probably happier than all the other fish

I've ever raised?

- Two minute research here.

Fish have an endocannabinoid system,

which is the biological system that interacts

with cannabinoids like THC.

So we don't know how, it's never been studied.

- So they can get high, it's what you're telling us.

- It somehow THC affects their bodies.

It doesn't just like not affect them.

So this would have some sort of effect.

- Maybe.

- Study required.

- That is the coolest thing ever.

- This podcast has reached new heights.

- It's very high right now.

It's important to note that exposing fish to THC

could be harmful due to differences in physiology.

Oh, okay, thank you.

- Well, hopefully your buddy, you know,

has he been feeding these koi fish for a while?

Have they lived long enough?

- No, I think this is just his next venture.

I don't even know how serious he is on this,

but I mean, he's very serious about growing the goldfish

or koi fish in his basement

with all the equipment that he has.

And I think he's just trying to offload

40 pounds of weed right now.

- Does it go bad?

Does he want to send it to me?

- He could just promote his koi fish business

with free weed, buy a koi fish, free weed.

- I think that's a way better idea.

- Buy a koi fish, get an ounce.

- And now like all these 16, like teenage kids are like,

hey, can I have a koi fish?

- Oh God, that's the new drug name for weed on the street.

Hey, you got some koi, man?

- It's Gen Z, weed name.

- We cannot pin this on Gen Z.

This is squarely on us.

- It's not a Gen Z.

- Over 12 episodes of the show, we've pinned a lot on Gen Z.

This idea came right from us.

- Thank you Gen Zers for listening to our podcast.

- Please like and subscribe.

(laughing)

- Please like and subscribe.

- All right, Jake, what does an idea have?

- So firstly, I would like to kind of rewind back

to the very first episode of Spitballers.

Or Spitball, Spitballer.

- Spitball.

- Yeah, okay, Spitball.

- Or Spitballers playing Spitball.

- No, Spitballers, ballers are what we call our fans.

- Okay, three lovable fans.

Let's cast our minds back to the first episode

where Scott was talking about this,

an app where you throw some money in

and you go do something and you work out

and it pays you to work out or something like that.

And then it divulged deeper into like a dare system.

Well, Scotty, I don't know if you knew this,

but there's actually a movie

that is kind of along those lines.

It's called Nerve.

It was released in 2016.

It's with Emma Roberts and Dave Franco.

It was not great.

I wish there were more memorable moments, but--

- Solid six, five on IMDb.

- So following in that, my movie knowledge,

I found during the pandemic,

what I was doing was when one of the old movies

were coming out to play,

like I saw Alien in theaters during the pandemic.

I saw the extended editions of Lord of the Rings,

all three movies.

It was awesome, but I had no one to share that with

because it was the pandemic

and no one was going to movie theaters.

Also, my wife didn't want to go with me

because she doesn't like Lord of the Rings.

I don't know why.

- Nobody's perfect, it's fine.

- Anyway, so I realized in that moment

how much I missed having someone

in the movie theater with me.

So once that movie ended, I could look at them

and be like, "That was awesome.

"That was amazing."

And we would have a good conversation about the movie

and what our favorite scenes were.

So my pitch is, what if there's an app called Movie Buddy?

I guess it's an app for cinephiles like myself

to meet up, to go see a movie,

to chat about it afterwards, to hang out.

You can also get big groups together

and say, "Let's go see this movie,"

or, "Hey, I'm hosting this movie night at my house

"and we'll have a discussion afterwards."

- Book club organizing, but for movies.

- I know there's Reddit, but as you guys keep saying,

how long is that going to be around for?

Also, it could even evolve into a dating app.

I know Russell is the head honcho

of Russell's Romance Corner.

- Russell's Love Corner.

You can find people with similar movie tastes saying,

"Hey, I want to go see this romantic comedy

"with a person that I am attracted to."

And you can swipe left on people or swipe right.

(laughing)

And say, "Hey."

- What's your movie taste?

- Yeah.

- It's such a perfect little non-committal,

you can learn so little in so little conversation.

You just sit next to them for three hours.

Do they cough weird?

(laughing)

Do they smell funny?

Do they make weird sounds when they eat popcorn?

- So my biggest pet peeve is people who talk during movies.

- I was just gonna say.

- Like if it's a new movie that I haven't seen,

I do not want you talking to me.

- Totally.

- So it can be like your profile says,

"Oh, I'm a movie talker."

No, I'm swiping left on you, I can't do that.

- Love that, it sorts you into the right group.

I completely agree, the experience of at the end of a movie

where you just wanna talk about it and share,

even if you're just standing in the lobby

of the theater afterwards and just like,

"Oh my God, this just happened," or whatnot.

- It's really special, yeah.

- One of my favorite experiences in my life

is I saw "Opening Night Prestige,"

like Christopher Nolan's "Prestige,"

just a crazy wild movie.

And if you haven't seen it,

the final three seconds of the movie

is just mind-blowing, like what?

"Opening Night," credits go up of "Prestige,"

and it's complete silence in the theater

when the credits come up,

'cause everyone doesn't know what just happened.

The guy next to me just smacks me in the chest and goes,

"Dude, what the (beep) just happened up there?"

(all laughing)

Yes, I wanna share that with people.

- Dude, AMC, like all these movie theaters would love that.

They would love to make that happen.

- Totally.

- Especially with the, I don't know if you guys

have been following the "Taylor Swift" movie.

Swifties are just like getting up and dancing

during this thing.

Can you imagine if there's like a high-profile movie out,

like the "Taylor Swift" movie,

and you don't know any other Swifty,

and you're like, "I need a Swifty right now.

"Let's go to the 'Swift' movie,

"Taylor Swift movie, and dance and sing with her."

- Dude, this is like, I think,

the way to save AMC theaters, you know?

You just put it on their movie pass or whatever,

you create this whole environment

and group buying decisions.

Like now they have like a group of people

that are gonna meet up at the same time.

They want the best experience.

So you gotta set it up that way.

These are high-profile critics,

but like hobbyist critics, right?

Influencers, all that.

But you create the network,

or you create the process for people to locally meet up.

If it's five people, if it's 100 people, whatever.

You know, and then of course,

you gotta go to the local movie theaters or something.

I don't know if that matters to people.

- Yeah, oh yeah.

- They just want the best experience, right?

- Right, and I also want a chair that reclines

and popcorn that I can refill for free.

- Hey, you could, like what would be cool is,

I feel like theaters should be putting old movies back,

like really popular old school movies.

I don't know if they're doing that,

but that would be like the power to the movie buffs.

You know?

- They actually are doing this now.

I've noticed this a lot with our theater down here,

is they're playing the older movies,

and these are movies from our childhood.

Emily and I saw "Scream" in 1996,

and it was amazing in theaters,

because there were so many different age groups there

that were sitting there enjoying

this classic cozy slasher film.

And they did that for the entire month of October.

They would show like these classic horror films.

So yeah, movie theaters are getting savvy,

and they're saying, "Hey, maybe we should bring back

"some of the older classics."

- That's so smart.

I would love to see some of those in theaters.

- Let the cinema, the movie buffs like vote.

They should be the ones telling the theaters what they want.

- Only "Transformers" movies.

Yeah, yeah, but no, it's really interesting

to think about the duality of having these movie theaters

have access to it to say,

"Hey, what movie would you guys wanna see?"

Maybe they put up a poll of maybe four or five movies

and say the one with the most votes will show next week.

- Yes, makes perfect sense.

There are several movies that I hold near and dear

that I would love to have the theater experience again over,

only I'm going with someone that I know hasn't seen it yet,

so I could live through them.

- Yeah, and even you could even, like in the app,

you can say, "Hey, I'm looking for someone

"who hasn't seen this movie

"so that they can enjoy it with me."

There's that old mentality of toxic movie buff

and the non-toxic movie buff.

Like the toxic movie buff will sit there and be like,

"You haven't seen this movie."

And then there's the non-toxic of,

"You haven't seen this movie yet?

"I am so excited for you.

"Can I watch it with you?"

- Absolutely.

- I think there's something cool too,

'cause when you have everybody going to the movie theater

for a movie they all like, by selecting that,

it's a different experience.

'Cause I mean, nowadays with these movies,

you're like walking out of the theater,

you don't know if it's gonna be good or bad anymore.

And so you'd love to just see

all the people that love this movie.

To your point, the "Swifty" movie,

like imagine if it was like some old movie

that everybody loved in the theater together

for that like one weekend.

- Yeah, no, when we watched "Scream,"

it was really just very special

because this franchise has lived for so long

and persevered for so long

that it's affecting multiple generations.

There were people who were in their 60s

seeing this movie in theaters.

And then there were teenagers.

- Dude, you could do this.

You could make this app so easy.

You connect it to IMDB.

- Yeah, but I don't have the time.

That's why I'm giving it to you guys.

(laughing)

- That's right.

- That's why I'm here.

(laughing)

- I wonder if there's an app out there

to like track all the movies you've watched and rate them.

- It's called Letterboxd.

- Yep.

- And I use it religiously.

- It does seem like a feature that they could take

and like add to their app.

That's what I was thinking about during this.

- It could be, yeah.

- Or we exit to them.

We build this app and then they buy us.

- Or it even like compares your list on Letterboxd

with other people and gets you matched up

with other people with your similar interests

and says, "Hey, you all really like these four,

but there's a bunch of other people

who liked those four movies who really loved this fifth one

that none of you have seen.

We really recommend you five people,

if you've opted in, you know,

go see this one that we're pretty sure you would also enjoy."

That's gotta be a thing, right?

- Every app has your GPS location now.

It knows you're around these five people.

You guys should all meet up.

- You mark yourself as times that you're free some nights

and then it'll give you both people to go with

and a recommendation of something that they know is playing.

Yeah.

- Love that.

- What a strange experience that would be though.

Like, or just like, it'd be so unique.

- Hi, I don't know you, but I guess I kind of know you.

- The app told me to meet you here.

- Yeah, we're gonna watch a movie together.

- Well, you go in knowing that you have similar interests

in at least one part of your life, right?

- Yeah.

- Yeah, and even with like movie theaters nowadays

where they sell tickets to actual seats,

that's where the movie theaters come in and say,

"Hey, these seats are available.

You and your five friends can come see

'Five Nights at Freddy's'."

- Yeah.

- Don't, don't, don't watch that movie.

- It's kind of like, I don't know, I guess like in a way,

it feels like it would be a strange experience,

but like Uber was not a strange experience,

but in a way it'd be, it's like that feeling of like-

- The first time I did it, it felt weird.

- Right, and you know, and Airbnb at first, it was like,

I'm gonna stay in someone else's house.

So someone out there run with it, please.

I would love to see what someone can do with it.

- Letterboxd, J Con is your new director of vision

and community.

- I mean, it's already more successful than MoviePass.

So I mean, just not existing.

- God, those were the golden days, man.

- Bingo.

I got it on my card.

We reminisced about how great MoviePass was.

(laughing)

- Yeah.

- Is that on your card?

- I took advantage.

- Russell's the reason MoviePass failed.

I don't know if you knew this, Jake.

- Yeah, so- - I did not.

- We, when you had MoviePass,

you had to go to the location itself

and buy the ticket with the debit card they mailed you,

and they would cover the cost.

Unless you had special theaters in your area

where you could buy the tickets online and reserve the seat,

and then they didn't make you go to the theater

to get the seat.

And so we all had accounts,

and we would have a group chat.

We're like, "Can I get three tickets to Moana?"

And we would all like buy tickets on our app

'cause we didn't have to be at the theater

and like share them with each other.

Here's your code for this one, this one, and this one.

- Oh my gosh, that's perfect.

- But then Russell learned,

"Oh, the theater has a rewards program,

"so I'll just buy a ticket every day and not go."

- He'd spend hundreds of dollars of Silicon Valley money

so he could get a free small popcorn

the next time he went.

- He took a venture capitalist wallet and lit it on fire.

- Russell, was it worth it?

- I actually never ended up getting free popcorn.

I just never ended up using it.

I just saw the points go up.

I mean, it was kind of just like ridiculous

that I could do it, so it was just the thrill.

It was a little bit of that.

- Somewhere in a database, somewhere in our local theater,

there's a really high number next to your email address.

- It's got some movie buff.

We should sign up.

(laughing)

Great for this app.

- It's like the ticket redeeming booth.

You have enough for the Xbox on the top shelf.

- You know what's so funny?

Every time I did that,

like there'd be some new feature

to like stop that from happening.

(laughing)

Like you could only see a movie once.

Oh, well that sucks.

Now I have to like buy every ticket.

You know, I have to watch every movie now.

And then it switched to like,

your geolocation needed to be near the theater.

I'm like, okay.

So then when I would drive home,

I just like swing by it, ping it real quick and keep going.

It wasn't a great geofencing.

So literally as I drove by on like the main street,

I just hit it a bunch of times and then it would work.

So I was like-

- That's great.

- It's the thrill of doing something stupid

for just the sake of doing something.

- Yes.

- And then the company folded.

- And then the company collapsed.

(laughing)

- I saw at least a dozen movies I wouldn't have.

It was the golden days.

- Oh yeah, yeah.

- Well, thanks so much for listening.

We hope you enjoyed yourself.

And thank you very much, Jake.

It was lovely to have you here.

- Thank you guys for having me on.

- Next time you have an idea, we gotta have you back.

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